12 Best Cabin Rentals Near Chevy Chase, MD, US 2025

Looking to go camping near Chevy Chase, Maryland? Look no further than Hipcamp! With over 800 options in the area, you're sure to find the perfect campsite to suit your preferences. Whether you're a fan of off-roading, swimming, or wildlife watching, there's a campsite with your name on it. Some popular options include Camp Shenandoah Meadows (295 reviews), Private Paradise on Rivers Bend (210 reviews), and Fiddlers Green Farm (196 reviews). Plus, you'll have access to amenities like potable water, campfires, and toilets. With an average price per night of $50 and options as low as $12, you're in for an affordable and unforgettable camping experience.

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Top-rated campgrounds

Looking to go camping near Chevy Chase, Maryland? Look no further than Hipcamp! With over 800 options in the area, you're sure to find the perfect campsite to suit your preferences. Whether you're a fan of off-roading, swimming, or wildlife watching, there's a campsite with your name on it. Some popular options include Camp Shenandoah Meadows (295 reviews), Private Paradise on Rivers Bend (210 reviews), and Fiddlers Green Farm (196 reviews). Plus, you'll have access to amenities like potable water, campfires, and toilets. With an average price per night of $50 and options as low as $12, you're in for an affordable and unforgettable camping experience.

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1. Basecamp Frederick

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40mi from Chevy Chase · 3 sites · RVs, Lodging · Frederick, MD

Basecamp Frederick is located on almost 2 acres adjacent to the Frederick Municipal Forest & Watershed on Hamburg Rd. There is a small creek that borders one side of the property, a wooded area in the back, and access to trails across the street. This area of Frederick is prime for outdoor activities such as cycling, hiking, fishing, foraging, and wildlife watching. Both Gambrill State Park and Catoctin Mountain Park are nearby and easy to access for day trips.

2. Opequon Quaker Camp @ Rolling Ridge

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42mi from Chevy Chase · 19 sites · Tents, Lodging · Harpers Ferry, WV

Opequon Quaker Camp is located on the Rolling Ridge Conservancy. the Conservancy is home to three non-profit, partner organizations and consists of more that 1700 acres of protected forests and fields. the land is all accessible to the public on its extensive trail system, connecting to the Appalachian Trail (near Raven's Rock and Wilson's Gap ) and reaching down to the Shenandoah River. Rooms in our Lodge, tent sites and large wall tents and use of the commercial kitchen and dining hall are available.

3. About Tyme Farm

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43mi from Chevy Chase · 2 sites · Tents, RVs, Lodging · Westminster, MD

About Tyme Farm is a 26 plus acre privately owned farm used for crops such as corn, soy beans and sunflowers. The property includes a 150+ year old stone farm house, large historic barn on the barn quilt tour in Carroll County, renovated camping cabin for those not into rough camping, fields, streams , woods for hiking, plenty of wild life and lots of quiet. The farm is surrounded by other farms in the agricultural preservation program yet you are only 5 miles from stores, movies, antiques and other aspects of civilization or entertainment if needed. Enjoy watching the deer come out of the woods and meander along the stream and fields at dusk and return in the morning. Electric, water, fire pit and a Port a Pot is available even for rough campers. Pets welcome but must be on a leash or exercise pen or with their owners in some way while here for their safety. There is a large fenced yard for dogs that just have to run if needed. Glamorous camping with a furnished heated/cooled cabin is available for rent by the night for those who do not have camping equipment or do not want to rough it. For those that have been camping before and have all the equipment there is plenty of room for a tent or camper near the buildings or by the stream or woods. For RV owners there is 50amp electric service in the barn. You will need an RV extension cord to access it. I have a 100 ft RV ext. cord but it can be farther than that depending on where you park. Bring one of your own to be sure. It is a farm and not set up like an RV park with numerous outlets.

4. Sylvanside Farm Hunt Box

36mi from Chevy Chase · 1 site · Lodging · Purcellville, VA

Sylvanside Farm Hunt Box – Historic Charm in Virginia Wine Country Tucked away on our 25-acre historic Quaker farm in Purcellville, Virginia, the Sylvanside Farm Cottage offers a peaceful retreat surrounded by rolling pastures, woodlands, and the beauty of horse country. This cozy stone cottage blends rustic character with modern comfort, making it a perfect base for exploring Loudoun County’s wineries, breweries, and outdoor adventures. Inside the Cottage: • One comfortable bedroom with fresh linens provided. • A welcoming living area with vintage farmhouse details. • Small kitchenette for simple meals and morning coffee. • Private bath stocked with essentials. On the Farm: • Greet our gentle Clydesdales and other farm animals in the nearby paddocks. • Take a walk to the pond deck for birdwatching or an evening glass of wine. • Enjoy star-filled skies and the glow of fireflies after dark. • Woods and pastures surround the cottage, offering privacy and quiet. Nearby Attractions: • Over a dozen wineries, cideries, and breweries within 15 minutes. • Access to the Appalachian Trail, Shenandoah River, and Harpers Ferry (30 minutes). • Historic downtown Purcellville (5 minutes) for dining, groceries, and shops. Whether you’re seeking a romantic weekend, a quiet solo getaway, or a countryside escape, the Sylvanside Farm Cottage offers a unique combination of history, comfort, and natural beauty in the heart of Virginia’s wine country.

5. Maryland Health Society

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21mi from Chevy Chase · 42 sites · Tents, RVs, Lodging · Davidsonville, MD

We are the Maryland Health Society, one of the oldest clothing optional resorts and campgrounds in the USA. Established in 1934, we are 100% not-for-profit and 100% volunteer run. We have 98 secluded acres of wooded beauty, including cabins, RV sites with 50amp service, tent sites, swimming pool, clubhouse with kitchen and full restrooms, BBQ pit, 5 outdoor showers, 7 miles of hiking trails. Bordering the Patuxent River, we are 10 minutes from Washington, DC. We host many large fundraising events every year. We are in a rustic setting and our offer total acceptance. We are a 100% AANR Club.

6. Tiny House on the Potomac

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48mi from Chevy Chase · 1 site · Lodging · Shepherdstown, WV

We have title records going back to Lord Fairfax for this beautiful land on the Potomac River just a mile from Shepherdstown. The Tiny House was a fishing cabin dating to at least the 1940s. The Main house is a historic stone structure dating to 1815.Learn more about this land:Relax and escape to the peace and quiet by the Potomac River, and wake to beautiful romantic views of the river and mountains in this romantic 200-square foot tiny house situated on 2.5 acres, with 450 feet of river front land. Explore and take advantage of all the activities on the river and surrounding area. Fish, bike, kayak, tube, or just sit by the river and watch the birds and wild life. Sit and read by the river or in the quiet comfort of the house with a bottle of wine on us.

7. The Agape

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49mi from Chevy Chase · 6 sites · Tents, RVs, Lodging · Queenstown, MD

The Agape is located on 20 acres and over 2000' of shoreline in Maryland’s Eastern Shore, with breath taking sunsets every evening. Pull up your RV [or rent ours], pitch a tent, kick up your feet and relax by the water. Soak in the sounds of nature and the sight of wild birds, from the Osprey, Bald Eagle and even the Great Blue Heron. We are a pack it in, pack it out leave-no-trace camping site. There are no hookups, but during your stay, feel free to patronize the entire property. The views of the Wye River from the dock are absolutely beautiful and peaceful! There is also plenty of water for fishing, crabbing and even a small, man-made beach! OUTDOOR POOL AND RAFT USE - The outdoor pool is closed indefinitely. There is a 4-person raft and a 2-person inflatable kayak available, for an additional fee per day. Both require PRIOR APPROVAL and a WAIVER to utilize.

8. Harpers Ferry Cabin W/ Steam Shower

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42mi from Chevy Chase · 1 site · Lodging · Harpers Ferry, WV

Nestled on a beautiful, wooded hillside overlooking the Shenandoah Valley, is the getaway cabin you've been looking for! Take in the sunsets over the Shenandoah Valley from the beautiful deck or from the cozy sunroom. With the help of our newly remodeled steam shower, this cabin has everything you need to rest, relax, and reconnect. It’s perfect for couples and small families. It sits just a short drive from historic Harpers Ferry, where you will find plenty of fun activities. The cabin sits on just under an acre with a lot full of georgous rocks to climb and explore. The yard includes a firepit area to sit, relax, and roast your marshmallows. The cabin has an open floor plan, allowing plenty of space to play games, share meals, and just relax. Connect with nature as many deer and other wild life often wonder right up to the front door. This cabin also sits just up the road from the Mountain Lake Club where you will find live music, good food, beach lake access, and plenty of summer fun! Alta Vista is Pet Friendly. See policy below. Area Attractions -Kayaking -Historic Harpers Ferry -White water Rafting -Hiking -Tubing -Historic Charles Town -Beach Lake access -Horse Racing (seasonal) -Boat Rentals. -Snow Tubing - Vineyard Tours -and more! Bedroom 1 -1 Queen Bed -Smart TV with DVD player -Closet w hanging storage Bedroom 2 -1 Queen Bed -1 Twin Bed -TV with Roku and DVD player. -Closet w/ with hanging storage -Laundry cabinet-Washer/dryer Bathroom -Glass enclosed shower (no tub) -Seperate baby bath available -Steam Shower -Heated Floor -Luxury Robes included for your enjoyment Kitchen -Fully Stocked kitchen with pots, pans, baking sheets, etc. -Child friendly cups and plates -High Chair/booster -Fully stocked coffee bar-including tea, hot chocolate, and apple cider. Standard Coffee Maker and Kuerig available Sunroom -Dining Table for 4 -Books and games Exterior -Fire Pit-great for lounging or roasting marshmallows -Beautiful enclosed deck - Uniquely landscaped yard to enjoy the outdoors. **Note: The fireplace shown in the photos is not functional* MOUNTAIN ROADS: In the event of snow, 4 wheel drive may be necessary. The roads up to this cabin are steep and narrow at times. Steep mountain roads are often what it takes to get incredible views like the ones from this cabin, and those who love adventure won't be disappointed!

9. Catoctin Quaker Camp

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46mi from Chevy Chase · 10 sites · Lodging · Thurmont, MD

Catoctin Quaker Camp was established in 1958 and its 385 acres are mostly forests. There is a pond, bathhouse, and plenty of land to explore (385 acres). The camp is located on Frederick County's South Mountain formation and is adjacent to the Frederick City watershed which is filled with beautiful trails. We have 8 different cabins available to rent and the option to book out the entire property. Toilets, showers, picnic tables, and potable water are all available on site. Campfires are permitted! No pets allowed. Catoctin Mountain National Park, Cunningham Falls State Park and Gambril State Park are all within a 10 to 15-minute drive. Adventure awaits at Catoctin Mountain Park! Nestled in the Blue Ridge Mountains, this park is the perfect getaway. Hike a trail and enjoy an epic view.

10. The Loft in Harpers Ferry

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41mi from Chevy Chase · 1 site · Lodging · Knoxville, MD

Looking for a unique cabin rental? Located 3 miles east of Harpers Ferry National Park in West Virginia, the Loft is perfect cabin lodging for exploring the scenic and stunning tri-state area where two rivers and three states meet. Four National Parks and trails (including the Appalachian Trail and Antietam National Battlefield) are located within twenty-five minutes of this cabin location. Built over a small stream in 1972, River & Trail’s original Knoxville location has been repurposed to provide a novel “cabin camping” experience with certain creature comforts in an alternative setting. This cabin offers an outdoor shower with hot water and portable toilets.

Camper favorites near Chevy Chase

Top-rated campgrounds reviewed by the Hipcamp community.

Sylvanside Farm Hunt Box

36mi from Chevy Chase · 1 site · Lodging · Purcellville, VA

Sylvanside Farm Hunt Box – Historic Charm in Virginia Wine Country Tucked away on our 25-acre historic Quaker farm in Purcellville, Virginia, the Sylvanside Farm Cottage offers a peaceful retreat surrounded by rolling pastures, woodlands, and the beauty of horse country. This cozy stone cottage blends rustic character with modern comfort, making it a perfect base for exploring Loudoun County’s wineries, breweries, and outdoor adventures. Inside the Cottage: • One comfortable bedroom with fresh linens provided. • A welcoming living area with vintage farmhouse details. • Small kitchenette for simple meals and morning coffee. • Private bath stocked with essentials. On the Farm: • Greet our gentle Clydesdales and other farm animals in the nearby paddocks. • Take a walk to the pond deck for birdwatching or an evening glass of wine. • Enjoy star-filled skies and the glow of fireflies after dark. • Woods and pastures surround the cottage, offering privacy and quiet. Nearby Attractions: • Over a dozen wineries, cideries, and breweries within 15 minutes. • Access to the Appalachian Trail, Shenandoah River, and Harpers Ferry (30 minutes). • Historic downtown Purcellville (5 minutes) for dining, groceries, and shops. Whether you’re seeking a romantic weekend, a quiet solo getaway, or a countryside escape, the Sylvanside Farm Cottage offers a unique combination of history, comfort, and natural beauty in the heart of Virginia’s wine country.

Maryland Health Society

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21mi from Chevy Chase · 42 sites · Tents, RVs, Lodging · Davidsonville, MD

We are the Maryland Health Society, one of the oldest clothing optional resorts and campgrounds in the USA. Established in 1934, we are 100% not-for-profit and 100% volunteer run. We have 98 secluded acres of wooded beauty, including cabins, RV sites with 50amp service, tent sites, swimming pool, clubhouse with kitchen and full restrooms, BBQ pit, 5 outdoor showers, 7 miles of hiking trails. Bordering the Patuxent River, we are 10 minutes from Washington, DC. We host many large fundraising events every year. We are in a rustic setting and our offer total acceptance. We are a 100% AANR Club.

Tiny House on the Potomac

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48mi from Chevy Chase · 1 site · Lodging · Shepherdstown, WV

We have title records going back to Lord Fairfax for this beautiful land on the Potomac River just a mile from Shepherdstown. The Tiny House was a fishing cabin dating to at least the 1940s. The Main house is a historic stone structure dating to 1815.Learn more about this land:Relax and escape to the peace and quiet by the Potomac River, and wake to beautiful romantic views of the river and mountains in this romantic 200-square foot tiny house situated on 2.5 acres, with 450 feet of river front land. Explore and take advantage of all the activities on the river and surrounding area. Fish, bike, kayak, tube, or just sit by the river and watch the birds and wild life. Sit and read by the river or in the quiet comfort of the house with a bottle of wine on us.

The Agape

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49mi from Chevy Chase · 6 sites · Tents, RVs, Lodging · Queenstown, MD

The Agape is located on 20 acres and over 2000' of shoreline in Maryland’s Eastern Shore, with breath taking sunsets every evening. Pull up your RV [or rent ours], pitch a tent, kick up your feet and relax by the water. Soak in the sounds of nature and the sight of wild birds, from the Osprey, Bald Eagle and even the Great Blue Heron. We are a pack it in, pack it out leave-no-trace camping site. There are no hookups, but during your stay, feel free to patronize the entire property. The views of the Wye River from the dock are absolutely beautiful and peaceful! There is also plenty of water for fishing, crabbing and even a small, man-made beach! OUTDOOR POOL AND RAFT USE - The outdoor pool is closed indefinitely. There is a 4-person raft and a 2-person inflatable kayak available, for an additional fee per day. Both require PRIOR APPROVAL and a WAIVER to utilize.

Harpers Ferry Cabin W/ Steam Shower

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42mi from Chevy Chase · 1 site · Lodging · Harpers Ferry, WV

Nestled on a beautiful, wooded hillside overlooking the Shenandoah Valley, is the getaway cabin you've been looking for! Take in the sunsets over the Shenandoah Valley from the beautiful deck or from the cozy sunroom. With the help of our newly remodeled steam shower, this cabin has everything you need to rest, relax, and reconnect. It’s perfect for couples and small families. It sits just a short drive from historic Harpers Ferry, where you will find plenty of fun activities. The cabin sits on just under an acre with a lot full of georgous rocks to climb and explore. The yard includes a firepit area to sit, relax, and roast your marshmallows. The cabin has an open floor plan, allowing plenty of space to play games, share meals, and just relax. Connect with nature as many deer and other wild life often wonder right up to the front door. This cabin also sits just up the road from the Mountain Lake Club where you will find live music, good food, beach lake access, and plenty of summer fun! Alta Vista is Pet Friendly. See policy below. Area Attractions -Kayaking -Historic Harpers Ferry -White water Rafting -Hiking -Tubing -Historic Charles Town -Beach Lake access -Horse Racing (seasonal) -Boat Rentals. -Snow Tubing - Vineyard Tours -and more! Bedroom 1 -1 Queen Bed -Smart TV with DVD player -Closet w hanging storage Bedroom 2 -1 Queen Bed -1 Twin Bed -TV with Roku and DVD player. -Closet w/ with hanging storage -Laundry cabinet-Washer/dryer Bathroom -Glass enclosed shower (no tub) -Seperate baby bath available -Steam Shower -Heated Floor -Luxury Robes included for your enjoyment Kitchen -Fully Stocked kitchen with pots, pans, baking sheets, etc. -Child friendly cups and plates -High Chair/booster -Fully stocked coffee bar-including tea, hot chocolate, and apple cider. Standard Coffee Maker and Kuerig available Sunroom -Dining Table for 4 -Books and games Exterior -Fire Pit-great for lounging or roasting marshmallows -Beautiful enclosed deck - Uniquely landscaped yard to enjoy the outdoors. **Note: The fireplace shown in the photos is not functional* MOUNTAIN ROADS: In the event of snow, 4 wheel drive may be necessary. The roads up to this cabin are steep and narrow at times. Steep mountain roads are often what it takes to get incredible views like the ones from this cabin, and those who love adventure won't be disappointed!

Catoctin Quaker Camp

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46mi from Chevy Chase · 10 sites · Lodging · Thurmont, MD

Catoctin Quaker Camp was established in 1958 and its 385 acres are mostly forests. There is a pond, bathhouse, and plenty of land to explore (385 acres). The camp is located on Frederick County's South Mountain formation and is adjacent to the Frederick City watershed which is filled with beautiful trails. We have 8 different cabins available to rent and the option to book out the entire property. Toilets, showers, picnic tables, and potable water are all available on site. Campfires are permitted! No pets allowed. Catoctin Mountain National Park, Cunningham Falls State Park and Gambril State Park are all within a 10 to 15-minute drive. Adventure awaits at Catoctin Mountain Park! Nestled in the Blue Ridge Mountains, this park is the perfect getaway. Hike a trail and enjoy an epic view.

The Loft in Harpers Ferry

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41mi from Chevy Chase · 1 site · Lodging · Knoxville, MD

Looking for a unique cabin rental? Located 3 miles east of Harpers Ferry National Park in West Virginia, the Loft is perfect cabin lodging for exploring the scenic and stunning tri-state area where two rivers and three states meet. Four National Parks and trails (including the Appalachian Trail and Antietam National Battlefield) are located within twenty-five minutes of this cabin location. Built over a small stream in 1972, River & Trail’s original Knoxville location has been repurposed to provide a novel “cabin camping” experience with certain creature comforts in an alternative setting. This cabin offers an outdoor shower with hot water and portable toilets.

Public campgrounds near Chevy Chase

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Smallwood Campground

31mi from Chevy Chase · 23 sites · Tents, RVs · in Smallwood State Park

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Gambrill Campground

40mi from Chevy Chase · 29 sites · Tents, RVs · in Gambrill State Park

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Greenbrier Campground

48mi from Chevy Chase · 151 sites · Tents, RVs · in Greenbrier State Park

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Camp Misty Mount Cabins

49mi from Chevy Chase · 30 sites · Tents, RVs · in Catoctin Mountain Park

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Cunningham Falls Campground

49mi from Chevy Chase · 171 sites · Tents, RVs · in Cunningham Falls State Park

Stories from the community

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Dean

October 2025

With kids

Weekend Trip to Catoctin Quaker Camp

Fantastic spot for camping. Very remote. You can see so many stars at night.

Mike

October 2025

Weekend Trip to Tiny House on the Potomac

Very picturesque setting near an eclectic town. I went there by myself, no pets are allowed and it was everything I had hoped for. It was the last day of a week long trip and it is worth staying for multiple days. Views and cabin amenities are numerous and would recommend to future travelers.

Ross

October 2025

Group trip

Weekend Trip to Catoctin Quaker Camp

The property and management is lovely here. Highly recommend

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Daniel

October 2025

With kids

Weekend Trip to Opequon Quaker Camp @ Rolling Ridge

This is a beautiful site with a comfortable lodge. We have held retreats here for several years. Every year, we see improvements as a result of the diligent work of David and his team. David and Todd are very responsive and a pleasure to work with!

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David

September 2025

1 night at Tiny House on the Potomac

So beautiful standing on the waters edge. Cozy, clean cabin. Nicest "outhouse" I've used. Shepardstown nearby is a great little town and so close. Note: Wifi did not work well at all but only really wanted it to look up nearby places. Sadly it was drizzle so I didn't get to sit by the firepit by the river so I guess I'll have to come back. :-)

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Tanya

September 2025

With kids

Weekend Trip to Catoctin Quaker Camp

Wonderful! Kids loved the paths in the woods, the pond, canoes, fire pit and the kitchen facilities are a nice bonus for adults!

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Amanda

September 2025

With kids

Weekend Trip to Catoctin Quaker Camp

Perfect trip with lots of Quaker magic as always!!

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Megan Honor

September 2025

With kids

Weekend Trip to Catoctin Quaker Camp

Loved the woods, stream, pond. Easy to spend days with little kids exploring and playing. I’d like to return, would be great with a large group

Furnished cabin is now available for those without camping equipment. Cabin is heated and air conditioned. Comfortable in any weather. Sleeps 4.

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Jon

August 2025

With kids

Weekend Trip to About Tyme Farm

Family had a great time. Pam was super. A great host. It was for one night. We will have to come and stay longer to explore the area.

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Shiva

August 2025

With kids

3 nights at Catoctin Quaker Camp

We have been renting Catoctin Quaker camp for over 20 years and adore everything about it, but their new caretaker Brian is above and beyond! Hats off to his helpfulness and generosity, his kindness and all of his efforts to make our camp experience memorable!

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Judy

August 2025

Group trip

Weekend Trip to Opequon Quaker Camp @ Rolling Ridge

Our stay at The Lodge at Opequon during our retreat weekend for eight people was absolutely fantastic. The location was easy to find, and there was plenty of space for our group. One of the highlights was the outdoor fire circle. Just a short walk from the lodge is a stream with a small waterfall. We also explored the nearby Shenandoah River and had the chance to enjoy the water. Our excellent camp host, Todd, was always available to assist us. He promptly answered our questions before the trip. Will we return to The Lodge next year? Absolutely! We are already planning our retreat for next year. Thank you, Todd!

Pamela

August 2025

2 nights at Tiny House on the Potomac

The stay at Richard’s cabin was everything I hoped for. A wonderful view of the Potomac River, peaceful, comfy bed, fire in the fire pit, and everything needed to cook up wonderful meals…oatmeal in the morning and burgers on the grill in the evening.

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Ramirez

July 2025

With kids

Weekend Trip to The Loft in Harpers Ferry

Wonderful experience, Family loved it!! 🏕️ Highly recommend.

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Dean

July 2025

With pets

Weekend Trip to About Tyme Farm

Pam was a very kind host and she has a beautiful property.

Charlie

June 2025

Weekend Trip to Maryland Health Society

The cabin was so comfortable and exactly what I needed. I spent probably half of my weekend enjoying the bug-free front porch, listening to music (and playing!), and just having a totally empty brain. The people, though - they really made the stay! I was welcomed into conversations as though I'd been part of the community for years. There was room to explore! The pool was a welcome surprise - I only say that because I'm not much of a pool guy. This was where folks gathered to talk, read, snack... whatever! What a wonderful community!

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Erik

May 2025

With kids

Weekend Trip to Catoctin Quaker Camp

We loved our stay at this place so much! Katherine’s cabin was beautiful, with a tall canopy overhead and very peaceful nights. The bathroom facilities were also very nice with nice hot water for showers at the end of the day.

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Amanda

May 2025

With kids

Weekend Trip to Catoctin Quaker Camp

Rustic and full of Quaker magic!!! This cabin is closest to the bathhouse (with real toilets). It’s also near the secret fire circle, but not too close- we were able to sleep in quiet with a couple dozen friends enjoying the fire still.

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Ana

May 2025

With kids

Weekend Trip to Catoctin Quaker Camp

Our whole family loves Catoctin! The cabins are well designed and spacious, beautiful forest views on every side, and the lagoon, camp fire circle and other public spaces are great. Highly recommended renting the lodge if you’re with a group!