The best ranch campgrounds near Tryon, North Carolina

Looking to experience the great outdoors with a ranch-style camping adventure near Tryon, North Carolina? Look no further than Hipcamp! With over 365 options specifically tailored to your preference for ranch activities and terrain, you'll have plenty of choices to find the perfect campsite. And with an average price per night of $39 and options as low as $15, there's something for every budget. Check out some of our top campsites with rave reviews: Dark Ridge Hide Out (422 reviews), ON TOP . CAMP - NW NC Ashe Co (240 reviews), and Rosewood Farm and Agripark (123 reviews). Enjoy popular amenities like potable water, pet-friendly areas, and trash disposal, and engage in activities such as paddling, fishing, and hiking. Get ready for an unforgettable camping experience!

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Top-rated campgrounds near Tryon

Looking to experience the great outdoors with a ranch-style camping adventure near Tryon, North Carolina? Look no further than Hipcamp! With over 365 options specifically tailored to your preference for ranch activities and terrain, you'll have plenty of choices to find the perfect campsite. And with an average price per night of $39 and options as low as $15, there's something for every budget. Check out some of our top campsites with rave reviews: Dark Ridge Hide Out (422 reviews), ON TOP . CAMP - NW NC Ashe Co (240 reviews), and Rosewood Farm and Agripark (123 reviews). Enjoy popular amenities like potable water, pet-friendly areas, and trash disposal, and engage in activities such as paddling, fishing, and hiking. Get ready for an unforgettable camping experience!

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Top-rated campgrounds near Tryon

1. Enchanting 2-Acre Asheville Oasis

85%

(37)

28mi from Tryon · 5 sites · Tents, Lodging

Discover a serene 2-acre retreat adorned with vibrant roses, red orchids, and the melodies of hummingbirds and bluebirds. Perfectly blending natural beauty and functionality, this property features: -Main House: A welcoming residence paired with a lower-level beauty salon, a hub for pampering and social gatherings. -Charming Cabin: With a chapel-style front room, it's the ideal venue for makeover parties, beer tastings, surprise celebrations, and more. -Tiny Sunset Condo: Cozy accommodations for two with breathtaking mountain views and unforgettable Asheville sunsets. -Outdoor Spaces: Relax by the fire pit, swing with a loved one, or entertain across multiple patios surrounded by lush gardens. This property is perfect for living, hosting, and creating lasting memories. A rare gem in the heart of Western NC! 🌸✨

2. Neal Creek Camping Sites

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(266)

43mi from Tryon · 4 sites · Tents, RVs

Neal Creek Primitive camping by the creek is located on private property. The two large campsites are approximately 300 feet apart and are located right beside the running creek. Plenty of shaded area's. We have a 6-8 person tent available to rent as well! Learn more about this land: We are only 1/2 a mile from the Interstate 85. So bring your tents, campers or your small RV and come and setup down by the babbling creek. If you don't have or own a tent, we have a large 6-8 person tent available for a small rental fee too. Build a nice fire in the fire pit. The firewood and kindling is provided. The campsites are semi-wooded areas with plenty of shade. They are very large private, peaceful and quiet sites.  View the stars at night, play in the creek during the day or if you are into biking or hiking, go to the Overmountain Victory trail located about 15 minutes away and enjoy the 6.7 mile loop around Lake Whelchel right off I-85. Local attractions: Biking, Hiking, Climbing and Horse trails - Kings Mtn National Park, Kings Mtn State Park, Crowder's Mtn State Park, Overmountain Victory Trail Segment - Lake Whelchel. Two Kings Casino is just a 10 minute trip right up Interstate - 85, exit 5 Convenient stores/restaurants within minutes from site.

3. Buffalo Creek Vacations

100%

(12)

49mi from Tryon · 8 sites · RVs, Lodging

Buffalo Creek Vacations was started after our father, Harold, retired from NY as a UPS driver.  He wanted to go somewhere & experience all 4 season!  Him & our mom settled in Haywood County, NC & built their own log cabin & started raising bison.  Then, myself, 3 siblings & our spouses purchases the 40 acres behind my folks 18 acres when it came up for sale.  We decided to build a cabin & then we started rented it out in 2007.  Now, we currently have 6 cabins & 2 train cabooses for rent.  We love living in God's country & raising the bison along w/ a bunch other farm animals.  We love hosting guest on our property & decided after many calls asking if we allow camping, to include a few lucky folks to camp at Buffalo Creek.  If you are looking for something other then "car camping" & being "on top of each other" at traditional camp grounds, then give us a call & come check us out.  You will be glad you did!

4. Bull Run RV Park

45mi from Tryon · 1 site · Tent, RV

Bull Run RV Park is a Full Hook Up (FHU) park. Scenic views on this 112 acre ranch. We are conveniently located 20 min from I-85, 5 min from Hwy 74 and 10 min from Two Kings Casino. Our Park is nestled along the Wolfbranch Creek and Longbranch Creek. We have hiking and mountain biking trails your enjoyment and exercise as well as pickleball/ basketball courts. Each of our sites is complete with 45 x 15 concrete pads with attached 8 x 8 patio. County water and city sewer at each site along with 50, 30 and 20 amp service. Our park has a full bathhouse with separate and private shower / toilets for men and women. We offer overnight stays as well as weekend / weeklong stays and extended stays. Check out the Bull Run RV Park, you will be glad you did.

5. Blue Ridge Camping

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(126)

49mi from Tryon · 10 sites · Tents

Get away from the crowds. On 300 beautiful acres once operated as a children's summer adventure camp, this property has a house with a dormitory style bathroom for camper use. There are 3 primitive campsites, 2 cottages, and a horse sanctuary. The campsites are spaced out around the property for privacy. Ask about bathroom use depending on the season. 4WD or AWD is recommended for all sites due to 1/2 mile gravel road and then completely off road for a short distance. Or, if you are bringing 2WD, there is plenty of parking and then walk to your campsite. We don't recommend trying to bring large RV's due to the access. We have not had a problem with Black Bears on the property. Help us keep it that way. Do not store or keep food in your tent. Don't sleep with food. Keep in mind bears are omnivores much like us. They eat mostly plants but also eat meat. For more info on bear safety, visit www.bearwise.org Winter camping is encouraged with free firewood. However, you will probably need to park on the gravel and walk to your campsite to limit soil erosion of the off-road trail. Pets are welcome only at some sites, but please please let us know you are bringing them and they will need to be leashed due to other animals. A large part of the property is forest with hiking trails, creeks, and wildlife. You can see wildflowers and lightning bugs in season along with deer, turkey, and horses. And all of our spots have a great view of the sky! We're not far from the Bare Dark Sky Observatory. The grass horse arena and the pond were originally built for the summer camp. The pond is stocked with bass and bluegill and has a chorus of bullfrogs in summer. The arena is flat and has a long range mountain view all the way to Mt. Mitchell (highest peak east of the Mississippi). There are also a meadow spot encircled by trees.

6. Triple J Farm and Campground

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(9)

41mi from Tryon · 13 sites · Tents, RVs, Lodging

Camp down by the creek at our private campground. Pan for gold or rock hound for gems in over 1/2 mile of pristine North Carolina creek. Outdoor shower and bathroom facility available. Bring all your camping gear, tents and headlamps for a fun adventure in the woods.

7. Pause || Eco-Retreat at Aramesh

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(200)

44mi from Tryon · 10 sites · Tents, RVs

This no ordinary campground. Pause is an adventure that will feel like you are exploring your own private mountain nature reserve. Aramesh is 120 acres of Blue Ridge heaven with something for every wilderness adventure seeker: unmatched mountain views, lush old growth forests, babbling brooks, and miles of trails for all skill levels. The property starts at 3700 ft altitude, with summit at 4500 ft on the Glades mountain ridge. We have only a few campsites on the vast property, so the wind in the trees and birds will be all you hear. Come and stay with us and be renewed! IMPORTANT: 4WD or AWD is required to access our property. There is a sometimes steep and windy gravel road into Pause. Please make sure your vehicle has 4WD or AWD before you book. Campsites: They are 3/4-1/4 mile from the entrance. Some are accessible by 4WD. There may be some vigorous hiking involved, but the views are worth it. The pads are various sizes. Let us know what the needs of your party are and we can help you choose from the available spots. We also have several more remote “off-menu” sites for those seeking a backpacking adventure - ask for more information if your are interested. Hiking: There are several miles of trails on the property. They range from an easy slope to very strenuous. The entire property is fenced so you won't easily get lost. Your climbing efforts will be amply rewarded by stunning views, especially at sunset. Trail maps are available upon request. On-Site Amenities: we provide a clean porta-potty and running water that is spring fed. We ask that you follow "Leave-No-Trace" procedures during your stay. Off-Site Amenities: If you choose to explore the area : we are a 10 minute drive from I-40 Exit 24. Asheville is 45 minutes away; Waynesville is 25 minutes away. Presnell's Grocery (highly recommended, family-owned store that sells locally farmed products) is 10 minutes away from the property entrance. The Ingles supermarket in Canton is a 15 minute drive. You will find every kind of fast food in that area. There are also several excellent local dining options in Canton, Clyde, and Waynesville which we are happy to recommend to you by request.

8. The Green River Ranch

5.9mi from Tryon · 1 site · Tent, RV

Enjoy a peaceful stay on the banks of the Green River with private river access and unbeatable proximity to adventure. This dry hookup RV site offers a secluded riverside escape right at the trailhead for the Green River Game Lands—perfect for paddlers, hikers, and nature lovers looking to unplug and explore.

9. Oak Creek Horse Farm

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(108)

35mi from Tryon · 5 sites · Tents, RVs

Horse farm with lots of space for you and your family! Used to be a dairy farm from 1860 to 1970. Plenty of space, beautiful sunset. You will be surrounded by horses. 5-10 min to restaurants and stores. 5-10 min to swimming and hiking. 20 min to Kings Mountains. 30 min to South Mountains. 20 min to Tryon Equestian Center.  Site 1,2 and 4: full hookup 50A, water and sewer. Site 3: full hookup 30A, water and sewer. Site 1 and 2 are about 100ft apart, site 3 is about 200ft from site 1 and 2, so there is plenty of space.

10. Imagine Equus Farm

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(6)

11mi from Tryon · 2 sites · Lodging

I first saw this property in 2009 and fell in love with it. The property is gorgeous and the land has a magical feel. Situated in the foothills of the Blueridge Mountains we are in horse and wine county! The area is also part of the isothermal belt so the weather is always better than the rest of the South or the Mountains. The land is about 1/2 pastures and the remainder are beautiful forests with trails, creeks and even our own waterfall. The animals and equines living here make the place even more special. Learn more about this land: Tiny home cabin on 28 acre horse farm with creeks, woods, and incredible pasture views. Your cabin is set in a grove of pine trees with gorgeous views from your deck and inside the home. We are in the horse and wine country of Polk County. There are 5 wineries within minutes. We are 7 miles from the new and fabulous Tryon International Equestrian Center. We are just over 20 minutes to Saluda with awesome kayaking and tubing on the Green River, hiking, biking and ziplining too. We are excited to add that we now are part of the Art of the Horse tour through Our Carolina Foothills!  Imagine Equus Farm are the new proud owners of Mil Flores, a beautiful horse painted by artist Mary Tolles.  Mil Flores now adorns the front of the farm!   The cabin has 1 queen sized bedroom and 1 bath, plus a full kitchen, living room and dining area. You will have all of the comforts when you are inside with wifi, cable TV, a mini-split for heat and air conditioning, a fireplace and a dishwasher. We keep the cabins stocked with everything you will need for your perfect getaway. We feature high in beds and 100% organic cotton sheets. The cabins are new and stylishly designed. The property is private and quiet. Perfect for a romantic getaway, a home base for TIEC horse shows, wine tastings or a quiet retreat. You will see miniature donkeys, horses, goats and even a steer roaming the pastures from your cabin. We want your time here to be wonderful, so we have strived to create a peaceful oasis.

Camper favorites near Tryon

Top-rated campgrounds reviewed by the Hipcamp community.

Bull Run RV Park

45mi from Tryon · 1 site · Tent, RV

Bull Run RV Park is a Full Hook Up (FHU) park. Scenic views on this 112 acre ranch. We are conveniently located 20 min from I-85, 5 min from Hwy 74 and 10 min from Two Kings Casino. Our Park is nestled along the Wolfbranch Creek and Longbranch Creek. We have hiking and mountain biking trails your enjoyment and exercise as well as pickleball/ basketball courts. Each of our sites is complete with 45 x 15 concrete pads with attached 8 x 8 patio. County water and city sewer at each site along with 50, 30 and 20 amp service. Our park has a full bathhouse with separate and private shower / toilets for men and women. We offer overnight stays as well as weekend / weeklong stays and extended stays. Check out the Bull Run RV Park, you will be glad you did.

Blue Ridge Camping

100%

(126)

49mi from Tryon · 10 sites · Tents

Get away from the crowds. On 300 beautiful acres once operated as a children's summer adventure camp, this property has a house with a dormitory style bathroom for camper use. There are 3 primitive campsites, 2 cottages, and a horse sanctuary. The campsites are spaced out around the property for privacy. Ask about bathroom use depending on the season. 4WD or AWD is recommended for all sites due to 1/2 mile gravel road and then completely off road for a short distance. Or, if you are bringing 2WD, there is plenty of parking and then walk to your campsite. We don't recommend trying to bring large RV's due to the access. We have not had a problem with Black Bears on the property. Help us keep it that way. Do not store or keep food in your tent. Don't sleep with food. Keep in mind bears are omnivores much like us. They eat mostly plants but also eat meat. For more info on bear safety, visit www.bearwise.org Winter camping is encouraged with free firewood. However, you will probably need to park on the gravel and walk to your campsite to limit soil erosion of the off-road trail. Pets are welcome only at some sites, but please please let us know you are bringing them and they will need to be leashed due to other animals. A large part of the property is forest with hiking trails, creeks, and wildlife. You can see wildflowers and lightning bugs in season along with deer, turkey, and horses. And all of our spots have a great view of the sky! We're not far from the Bare Dark Sky Observatory. The grass horse arena and the pond were originally built for the summer camp. The pond is stocked with bass and bluegill and has a chorus of bullfrogs in summer. The arena is flat and has a long range mountain view all the way to Mt. Mitchell (highest peak east of the Mississippi). There are also a meadow spot encircled by trees.

Triple J Farm and Campground

100%

(9)

41mi from Tryon · 13 sites · Tents, RVs, Lodging

Camp down by the creek at our private campground. Pan for gold or rock hound for gems in over 1/2 mile of pristine North Carolina creek. Outdoor shower and bathroom facility available. Bring all your camping gear, tents and headlamps for a fun adventure in the woods.

Pause || Eco-Retreat at Aramesh

100%

(200)

44mi from Tryon · 10 sites · Tents, RVs

This no ordinary campground. Pause is an adventure that will feel like you are exploring your own private mountain nature reserve. Aramesh is 120 acres of Blue Ridge heaven with something for every wilderness adventure seeker: unmatched mountain views, lush old growth forests, babbling brooks, and miles of trails for all skill levels. The property starts at 3700 ft altitude, with summit at 4500 ft on the Glades mountain ridge. We have only a few campsites on the vast property, so the wind in the trees and birds will be all you hear. Come and stay with us and be renewed! IMPORTANT: 4WD or AWD is required to access our property. There is a sometimes steep and windy gravel road into Pause. Please make sure your vehicle has 4WD or AWD before you book. Campsites: They are 3/4-1/4 mile from the entrance. Some are accessible by 4WD. There may be some vigorous hiking involved, but the views are worth it. The pads are various sizes. Let us know what the needs of your party are and we can help you choose from the available spots. We also have several more remote “off-menu” sites for those seeking a backpacking adventure - ask for more information if your are interested. Hiking: There are several miles of trails on the property. They range from an easy slope to very strenuous. The entire property is fenced so you won't easily get lost. Your climbing efforts will be amply rewarded by stunning views, especially at sunset. Trail maps are available upon request. On-Site Amenities: we provide a clean porta-potty and running water that is spring fed. We ask that you follow "Leave-No-Trace" procedures during your stay. Off-Site Amenities: If you choose to explore the area : we are a 10 minute drive from I-40 Exit 24. Asheville is 45 minutes away; Waynesville is 25 minutes away. Presnell's Grocery (highly recommended, family-owned store that sells locally farmed products) is 10 minutes away from the property entrance. The Ingles supermarket in Canton is a 15 minute drive. You will find every kind of fast food in that area. There are also several excellent local dining options in Canton, Clyde, and Waynesville which we are happy to recommend to you by request.

The Green River Ranch

5.9mi from Tryon · 1 site · Tent, RV

Enjoy a peaceful stay on the banks of the Green River with private river access and unbeatable proximity to adventure. This dry hookup RV site offers a secluded riverside escape right at the trailhead for the Green River Game Lands—perfect for paddlers, hikers, and nature lovers looking to unplug and explore.

Oak Creek Horse Farm

96%

(108)

35mi from Tryon · 5 sites · Tents, RVs

Horse farm with lots of space for you and your family! Used to be a dairy farm from 1860 to 1970. Plenty of space, beautiful sunset. You will be surrounded by horses. 5-10 min to restaurants and stores. 5-10 min to swimming and hiking. 20 min to Kings Mountains. 30 min to South Mountains. 20 min to Tryon Equestian Center.  Site 1,2 and 4: full hookup 50A, water and sewer. Site 3: full hookup 30A, water and sewer. Site 1 and 2 are about 100ft apart, site 3 is about 200ft from site 1 and 2, so there is plenty of space.

Imagine Equus Farm

100%

(6)

11mi from Tryon · 2 sites · Lodging

I first saw this property in 2009 and fell in love with it. The property is gorgeous and the land has a magical feel. Situated in the foothills of the Blueridge Mountains we are in horse and wine county! The area is also part of the isothermal belt so the weather is always better than the rest of the South or the Mountains. The land is about 1/2 pastures and the remainder are beautiful forests with trails, creeks and even our own waterfall. The animals and equines living here make the place even more special. Learn more about this land: Tiny home cabin on 28 acre horse farm with creeks, woods, and incredible pasture views. Your cabin is set in a grove of pine trees with gorgeous views from your deck and inside the home. We are in the horse and wine country of Polk County. There are 5 wineries within minutes. We are 7 miles from the new and fabulous Tryon International Equestrian Center. We are just over 20 minutes to Saluda with awesome kayaking and tubing on the Green River, hiking, biking and ziplining too. We are excited to add that we now are part of the Art of the Horse tour through Our Carolina Foothills!  Imagine Equus Farm are the new proud owners of Mil Flores, a beautiful horse painted by artist Mary Tolles.  Mil Flores now adorns the front of the farm!   The cabin has 1 queen sized bedroom and 1 bath, plus a full kitchen, living room and dining area. You will have all of the comforts when you are inside with wifi, cable TV, a mini-split for heat and air conditioning, a fireplace and a dishwasher. We keep the cabins stocked with everything you will need for your perfect getaway. We feature high in beds and 100% organic cotton sheets. The cabins are new and stylishly designed. The property is private and quiet. Perfect for a romantic getaway, a home base for TIEC horse shows, wine tastings or a quiet retreat. You will see miniature donkeys, horses, goats and even a steer roaming the pastures from your cabin. We want your time here to be wonderful, so we have strived to create a peaceful oasis.

Recent reviews from the Hipcamp community

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Katie

November 2025

15 ft campervan

With pets

3 nights at Pause || Eco-Retreat at Aramesh

This is an absolutely beautiful campsite. The hosts are very accommodating and give great directions. We also love seeing the horses.

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Amy

November 2025

Tent

Weekend Trip to Blue Ridge Camping

The site has beautiful views. It is private even though the house is right up the hill you can’t see it over a berm. It was a bonus to have access to a bathroom toilet and hot shower. It is a bit of steep walk up to it but still nice to have. We saw deer and heard owls. Would definitely go again. Thank you Rebecca!

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Brittney

November 2025

Tent

With kids

3 nights at Pause || Eco-Retreat at Aramesh

The land was beautiful and private. Definitely a relaxing visit.

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Chase

November 2025

Tent

With kids

Weekend Trip to Blue Ridge Camping

Rebecca was wonderful, and the space was convenient and cool. The pond spot was very nice.

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Abigail

November 2025

Tent

With kids

Weekend Trip to Pause || Eco-Retreat at Aramesh

Our family of 4 had an absolutely amazing time here at Lijahs garden. It was a perfect view yet close to porta potty and park king place. Great for little ones too! We also got to love on the beautiful horses thanks to Ms Jesi ❤️ How great is our God to make such a breathtaking view for us to enjoy with Him 🙏🏽❤️

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Robert

November 2025

Tent

With pets

1 night at Neal Creek Camping Sites

Great host checked on us in the beginning and made sure we had wood for a fire .That's right wood who eles does that .no one .Great job on That. there camp ground had a swing and clean area .fire ring and running creek .Will be back

stephanie

November 2025

Tent

With pets

Weekend Trip to Pause || Eco-Retreat at Aramesh

So beautiful and such a special place, this land is a true gem! As stated, be absolutely sure your vehicle has 4 wheel drive (I rented a truck specifically for this trip and it DID NOT have 4WD like the rental company told me it did) Extra grateful for Jill & Fara for sending their friend to help my tow truck driver extract me from the hill. Please do not make the same mistake I did, especially after heavy rain the hill to the top camps (Zimbo/Lijahs Garden) can become very slick and muddy.

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kaylie

November 2025

Tent

With pets

Weekend Trip to Neal Creek Camping Sites

Our stay at the site was lovely! Our only issue was wet firewood but other than that we had an amazing time :))

Rusty

November 2025

Tent

Weekend Trip to Blue Ridge Camping

The arena site was perfect. Incredible sunset views. Campsite was easy to access and flat. Becky was incredible kind and helpful. Will 100% be back soon.

Andre

November 2025

Tent

1 night at Neal Creek Camping Sites

I love staying at David's place. It's always neat and clean and David is a pleasant host.

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Forest

November 2025

Tent

With kids

Weekend Trip to Pause || Eco-Retreat at Aramesh

We loved camping & eloping at Lijah’s Ridge. What a beautiful, scenic spot. We look forward to returning again and again. Thank you! 😊

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Lindi

November 2025

Tent

Weekend Trip to Pause || Eco-Retreat at Aramesh

Great, clean campsites with beautiful panoramic views of the mountains. An amazing getaway , several acres, not crowded with people. The host was great and very good at communication! Can’t wait for my next opportunity to go back!

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julie

October 2025

Tent

1 night at Neal Creek Camping Sites

Great spot and super convenient to I-85. The spot is a great size, private, and bucolic. David is great at communication. Definitely recommend!!

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Jenna

October 2025

Tent

Weekend Trip to Pause || Eco-Retreat at Aramesh

Incredible views, absolutely beautiful. So peaceful and quiet. We stumbled upon the horses while hiking the trails and it was so magical. Love this spot

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Zoe

October 2025

Tent

Weekend Trip to Blue Ridge Camping

Great location! Really enjoyed how private it was

Alice

October 2025

21 ft Class B

With kids

1 night at Buffalo Creek Vacations

Perfect spot for van camping with our 4-year old who loves animals and trains (maybe they all do?). Peaceful and quiet spot for the night. We enjoyed the fire pit with plenty of seating, and a bathroom (toilet and sink) right across the way. It was cold the night we were there, so my son also enjoyed the indoor toys / play area. First time I’ve ever woken up and seen buffalo walking around — it was great! If we’re back in the area, we’ll definitely camp here again.

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Joshua

October 2025

Tent

With pets

Weekend Trip to Pause || Eco-Retreat at Aramesh

I very much enjoyed my long weekend retreat with my dogs. Our campsite was set off about a quarter mile from the next closest sites, so nights were quiet and peaceful. The property was beautiful, with the highlight being a hike up to the grassy bald for sunset. Amenities were all as described and well maintained. Surrounding area loaded with things to do. I would not hesitate to stay here again.

Leena

October 2025

Tent

Weekend Trip to Pause || Eco-Retreat at Aramesh

Lijah's Ridge - beautiful views ! We enjoyed our stay here - and loved the drive up to location. The description for site was accurate - and I might say that this site would be perfect for tents and group of people. We have a roof top tent -so we parked just in front of the tree stumps. Weather was gorgeous - made fire, purchased some wood as part of camp site. Recommending ! Note: This is in description, but can be easily missed. Campers on site above will park in same area, and if you have a rooftop tent - someone maybe parked quite close to you. It did not bother us - but FYI.

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Henrique

October 2025

Tent

Weekend Trip to Pause || Eco-Retreat at Aramesh

Our second stay here, and it was just as amazing as the first. The fall foliage was absolutely stunning, and the views from our campsite felt like having a private Blue Ridge Parkway overlook all to ourselves. Plenty of great trails right on site, and the free roaming horses wandering by were a real bonus. Peaceful, beautiful, and hard to beat.