The best river, stream, or creek cabin rentals near Buxton, New South Wales

Looking for a cabin near a river in Buxton, New South Wales? With over 230 available options that fit your criteria, Hipcamp has got you covered. Some of our top campsites include Wattle Valley Farm (339 reviews), 'Elouera Vale' Farm (207 reviews), and Scribbly Gum (203 reviews). With popular amenities like toilets, showers, and pet-friendly accommodations, you'll have everything you need to enjoy popular activities such as boating, swimming, and horseback riding. Prices per night average around $30, with options as low as $22.

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Top-rated campgrounds

Looking for a cabin near a river in Buxton, New South Wales? With over 230 available options that fit your criteria, Hipcamp has got you covered. Some of our top campsites include Wattle Valley Farm (339 reviews), 'Elouera Vale' Farm (207 reviews), and Scribbly Gum (203 reviews). With popular amenities like toilets, showers, and pet-friendly accommodations, you'll have everything you need to enjoy popular activities such as boating, swimming, and horseback riding. Prices per night average around $30, with options as low as $22.

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Top-rated campgrounds

1. Grady's Riverside Retreat

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69km from Buxton · 51 sites · Tents, RVs, Lodging · Burrier, NSW

Grady’s Riverside Retreat was first established in 1979. The retreat is located 20 minutes west of Nowra and is set on 17 secluded acres on the banks of the beautiful Shoalhaven River, surrounded by natural bushland, mountains, cliffs and dairy pastures. This makes Grady’s Riverside Retreat an ideal place to bring your friends and family to relax, unwind and enjoy the scenery. Grady’s has over 500 metres of direct access to the Shoalhaven River. The river is deep and also is tidal which means we have a large variety of fresh and saltwater fish that inhabit these waters. Majority of our well maintained grassy sites are located along the river or have uninterrupted river views. With a boat ramp and beach areas for you to utilise at your leisure. Grady's is a pet friendly Retreat and we also allow campfires. We strongly believe these few extra things are essential to create a true camping experience. The park grounds are well maintained throughout the year. The amenities are fresh and cleaned daily. If you are the adventurous type there are many activities to offer in the vicinity such as canoeing, fishing, swimming, bushwalks, 4WDriving, bike riding, jet skiing, water skiing and much more. Come and enjoy our absolute riverfront camping, -Secluded camping sites are available on request (subject to availability) -We also have powered camp sites and Riverview cabins and cottages available. -The picturesque banks of the Shoalhaven River play host to the perfect escape from the burdens of city life. Only 2 hours from Sydney but feels like a world away. Amongst the trees and under the clear blue sky, sit around your campfire and allow yourself the time to reflect, reconnect, and revel in nature's abundance. Activities:- *Fishing/swimming *kids playground *basketball court/ volleyball court *large reserve for ball sports etc *BMX Track - Grady’s has a BMX track on site *Canoeing and Paddle Boards for hire - Grady’s is a great location for the canoeing and paddle boards beginners or enthusiasts. *4WDing and Dirt Bike Riding - Grady’s is in close proximity to many fire trails and 4WD tracks. *Bushwalking and mountain biking - There are many walking tracks in and around the Yalwal region. *Boating - Bring your own boat or jet ski and enjoy the use of our boat ramp

2. Coolendel Camp

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66km from Buxton · 407 sites · Tents, RVs, Lodging · Buangla, NSW

Coolendel Camp is a beautiful nature reserve located on the Shoalhaven River three hours south of Sydney. The 2.5 kms of stunning riverfront attracts an extraordinary abundance of Australian wildlife. The comforts of modern facilities, the convenience of the Coolendel Store and the help of our friendly Coolendel crew, provide Coolendel’s visitors with a truly unique ‘back to nature’ camping and glamping experience.

3. Shellharbour Holiday Village

46km from Buxton · 27 sites · Tents, RVs, Lodging · Wollongong, NSW

**Please note that our office is closed on Christmas Day (25 December), and we do not accept arrivals or departures on this date. Any bookings made with a check-in or check-out on 25 December will be cancelled. Thank you for your understanding.** Located opposite the sensational Blacks Beach at Barrack Point and a short drive to local shops and eateries, Shellharbour Holiday Village (formerly Surfrider Caravan Park) offers an unbeatable location for your next beach break. Located in the beautiful seaside town Shellharbour on the NSW South Coast, Shellharbour Holiday Village offers an unbeatable location for your next beach break. Opposite the white sands of Blacks Beach and within walking distance to shops, restaurants, pubs and clubs. Shellharbour Holiday Village is far enough away for peace and quiet but close enough for a good time with your friends and family. Shellharbour Town Centre – 5 minutes Wollongong – 25 minutes Jamberoo Action Park – 20 minutes Kiama – 20 minutes Sydney – 1 hour 30 minutes We offer a large range of family holiday accommodation including powered and unpowered camping and caravan sites with use of our BBQ areas and all amenities or our modern fully self contained cabins which sleep up to 6 people.

4. Six Foot Track Eco Lodge

66km from Buxton · 2 sites · Lodging · Ganbenang, NSW

The Six Foot Track Eco Lodge is located on the beautiful Coxs River along the historic Six Foot Track running between Katoomba and Jenolan Caves. The Eco Lodge provides accommodation for up to 28 guests across two cabins. Our Echidna cabin sleeps 12 guests and our Wombat cabin sleeps 16 guests. You can book a cabin or if you have a large group, you can book out the whole place just for you to have absolute privacy :) You will enjoy the beautiful views from the large sheltered seating area, including large wooden dining tables, benches, chairs and leather couches. Two outdoor sheltered guest kitchens are available on premises and include gas stove tops, a BBQ, cookware, cutlery, utensils, kettles, plates and cups, as well as two sinks and a wash basin. Clean, fresh rain water is supplied and is safe to drink. Rubbish bins, including recycling and composting bins are on premises. Guests have access to two communal composting toilets and a warm shower. Large campfire has a sitting area and wood supplied. Kids will enjoy the playground built from natural and recycled material. Please note. The premises are entirely off grid and solar power is limited to lights only. There are no power points available. Please bring your own esky. Whether you are staying overnight or planning a longer recreational getaway, you will not get bored here! The newly opened Bowtell's Swing Bridge is only 900 metres away, following the beautiful Six Foot Track. A private access to the Coxs River is only 150 metres away, offering ample swimming holes and opportunities to fish, Take a 2-hour leisurely walk along the Six Foot Track to the Megalong Valley for a wine tasting at the Megalong Creek Estate or Dryridge Estate (Saturday and Sunday only). ACCESS: You can drive in from Little Hartley (about 45 min drive following the Coxs River Road) or walk along the Six Foot Track, a 16-km walk from Katoomba or an 8-km walk from Megalong Valley.

5. K2 River Island Nature Retreat

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41km from Buxton · 75 sites · Tents, RVs, Lodging · Bullio, NSW

K2 River Island Nature Retreat is nestled in the heart of the stunning Southern Highlands, offering a serene escape from the hustle and bustle of daily life. From the moment you arrive, you'll feel your worries melt away as you immerse yourself in the natural beauty of K2 and its surroundings. This unique farm stay provides a rustic, primitive camping experience where you can reconnect with nature. Enjoy the peaceful ambiance as you listen to the songs of native birds or relax by the creek, watching the gentle flow of water through the tranquil waterholes. Our grounds are home to an array of wildlife, including turtles, platypus, and more, ensuring a truly memorable and immersive retreat.

6. Lyrebirds Nest

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55km from Buxton · 2 sites · Lodging · Penrose, NSW

Welcome to Lyrebirds Nest, a quiet bush escape. Lyrebirds Nest cottage is situated in the bush with forest views from the balcony and rooms. The cottage is setup for glamping with an wood stove, queen bed (BYO linen), sofa, electricity, filtered water (hot and cold), hot indoor shower and composting toilet. A bar fridge and microwave is also provided. The open fire is not to be used. The surrounding land on the property includes a lake with jetty, sauna, olive grove, orchard and chicken coup. There are great hikes on the property or you can follow the creek and continue into the State Forest. There is plenty of wildlife to see, a bird lovers paradise with plenty of Lyrebirds, king parrots, black cockatoos to name a few. You're welcome to stay in the cottage or camp by the lake. Located half way between Canberra and Sydney, and 15 minutes walk from Penrose station with easy access to all the Southern Highlands has to offer.

7. 'Elouera Vale' Farm

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22km from Buxton · 15 sites · Tents, RVs, Lodging · Mittagong, NSW

Elouera Vale is a working farm located just outside Mittagong NSW. We breed and train camels for sale, especially into the Southern Highlands. Camels are excellent for weed control and co-grazing with cattle. 'Elouera Vale' also breeds Belted Galloway cattle, Dorper and Wiltipol sheep and donkeys. Our property covers over 140 acres, 80 acres cleared and pasture improved and the rest consisting of forest. The Chain O Ponds creek runs through the property and makes for a lovely walk. You will probably get to see kangaroo, wallaby, wombats, echidnas, koalas and lots of bird life. The lush green hills abound with walking and cycling trails. You can head to the spectacular Nattai Gorge via the Box Vale Mine walking track, an easy 4.4km circular walk that follows an old railway line through a tunnel to breath-taking views. Enjoy a picnic in the magnificent Lake Alexandra Reserve or hike up extinct volcanic peak Mount Gibraltar. The closest shops are approximately a 15 minute drive to the Mittagong Town Centre where you will find all the shops, cafes and restaurants for your needs. It is well worth a visit to ‘The Shaggy Cow’ cafe, one of our favourite foodie spots (don’t forget to mention Elouera Vale). While you're here please try the Cool Climate wines. The region’s rich soil and high altitude are ideal for cool-climate wine growing. Visit cellar doors in the hills and valleys around Mittagong, including Centennial Vineyards. Enjoy a pleasant wine tasting experience at Centennial (don’t forget to mention us). The Camel Cottage offers a luxe off-the-grid escape for couples just one hour from Sydney but feels like "miles from anywhere". The Gums Cottage is a fully contained, off-grid modern getaway, surrounded by the magnificent white gum trees that are its namesake. The serene setting and stylish interior of The Gums provides all the essentials for a picturesque and peaceful country escape. The White Gum Forest Retreat offers campsites nestled in a white gum forest, not far from a beautiful trickling creek. There is access to toilets and a small dam near campsites for water supply for showers where required. For a truly memorable experience we recommend hiring our function space, White Gum Forest Functions, which is available for day visitors as well as guests staying overnight in our cabins and campsites. Why not book your next special family group gathering, milestone birthday or wedding here! The function space can cater for up to 50 guests, please contact us with your time and date requirements before booking. Feel spoilt in the midst of beautiful waratahs, grevilleas and ferns, watching camels grazing in the adjacent paddock. It's like being on a safari! There is 5G mobile telephone reception at the farm so you can reconnect with the world if need be. No pets please.

8. Ingenia Holidays Nepean River

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58km from Buxton · 41 sites · Tents, RVs, Lodging · Sydney, NSW

The Blue Mountains might be famous for clean, mountain air, but in its foothills, it’s also famous for fun, when you check into Ingenia Holidays Nepean River. Backing onto the Nepean River, the park has accommodation options to suit every format of traveller with both families, couples and sporting enthusiasts making tracks to its Emu Plains location. With a menu of cabins that range from 2 to 12 guests and cottages, camping and caravan sites in between, there’s plenty of space to settle into holiday-mode at Ingenia Holidays Nepean River. Sure you could cook in your cabin or the camp kitchen and BBQ facilities onsite, but most choose to explore the Nepean River setting and wander to O’Donoghues Irish Pub, Nutrition Station or the Nepean Rowing Club, all nearby, for a bite to eat. When you’re not exploring the onsite swimming pool or playground, outdoor-lovers should take note – you’re staying dangerously close to Cables Wake Park Penrith for a fun-filled family day out. For something at slower speed, the Nepean River calls for fishing with the chance of reeling in your catch for dinner tonight.

9. The Sanctuary Retreat

52km from Buxton · 1 site · Lodging · Sydney, NSW

This is a private retreat stay (you receive the whole bottom level of the house), private bathroom, and kitchenette (no stove top) on shared land with the owner. You are the only guests and enjoy exclusive, unlimited use of the: Sauna, ice bath, pool, gazebo, meditation cave, and healing room with Zen Chi Machine. Your room includes a double bed, sofa be,d and single bed. A boutique retreat hideaway set amidst the breathtaking backdrop of The Woronora Valley of The Dharawal tribe. Reconnect back to your inner peace & creative ‘dream-like’ natural state, inspired by The Woronora Valley. This translates to 'Dreamtime Valley' by the First Nations of the Eora Nation. HIGHLIGHTS Sauna, ice bath, fire pit, gazebo, meditation cave, bushwalking, canoeing down the valley, solar heated pool, yoga mats with cushions, head massager, private healing room access with use of Zen Chi Machine + add on massages can be booked. WELCOME RETREAT PACK Receive our welcome pack with local goodies and staples: A selection of organic teas, coffee, filtered water, milk, sugar, coconut oil, oats, honey, and more. Allows guests to be nurtured in our overgrown garden grounds, or perhaps enjoy bushwalking amongst birds, wallabies & deers.

10. Bamarang Bush Retreat

71km from Buxton · 5 sites · Lodging · Nowra, NSW

Bamarang Bush Retreat is a family-owned and operated business set on 120 acres of ancient bushland in a prehistoric river valley. With handcrafted accommodations, it offers privacy and seclusion among towering gum trees, located just 2.5 hours from Sydney and Canberra. Nestled alongside the Shoalhaven River and close to the pristine white sands of Jervis Bay, the retreat caters to environmentally conscious individuals, couples, families, and groups seeking to reconnect with nature in a unique and creative space.

11. Wondernest

73km from Buxton · 1 site · Lodging · Blackheath, NSW

Elevated above serene and secluded bushland, the stylish and sophisticated country home of Wondernest invites you to leave the world at the door and immerse yourself in nature. Your wilderness detox begins the moment you enter the two-bedroom Scandi-cool cabin. Relax in the cosy window seat or soak up the serene atmosphere on the elevated outdoor deck. With our landscaped garden blending seamlessly into the bush, the World Heritage National Park is literally on your doorstep. The space Wondernest has been designed and renovated with a strong appreciation of its surrounds. The dark stained timber exterior opens into fresh white interiors walls, pale timber floors and 2 airy upstairs chalet style bedrooms. With views of bush from every room and a comfy sit in window "nest" to bring you closer to the bush there is no need to leave the house. But with an elevated outdoor deck and garden opening out into the bush, the Blue Mountains World Heritage National Park is literally on your doorstep. The light-filled galley kitchen with views to trees and bush is designed to make you relax and unwind. The black cabinetry and appliances are complemented by a functional rugged concrete benchtop. The kitchen comes fully equipped with gas cooktop, electric oven, microwave, dishwasher, toaster and kettle. It's welcoming and carefully considered with plenty of space for some indulgent holiday cooking. There is also a spacious bathroom and full laundry with both washer and dryer. The 2 upstairs chalet-style bedrooms both have queen size beds, discrete lighting zones, expansive bush views and plenty of storage space. Both rooms also feature skylights above the bed so you can explore the stars of the southern sky from the comfort of your luxury bed. Enjoy the Milkyway galaxy with a cup of tea in bed. Our goal is to let you connect with nature, so curl up on the window box or the corner leather lounge and watch the cockatoos come home to roost at dusk. But if you feel the need to reconnect there is unlimited access to high-speed NBN wifi. Bring your devices and access the streaming channel of your choice. There is off-street parking for 2 cars in the driveway

Camper favorites near Buxton

Top-rated campgrounds reviewed by the Hipcamp community.

'Elouera Vale' Farm

98%

(617)

22km from Buxton · 15 sites · Tents, RVs, Lodging · Mittagong, NSW

Elouera Vale is a working farm located just outside Mittagong NSW. We breed and train camels for sale, especially into the Southern Highlands. Camels are excellent for weed control and co-grazing with cattle. 'Elouera Vale' also breeds Belted Galloway cattle, Dorper and Wiltipol sheep and donkeys. Our property covers over 140 acres, 80 acres cleared and pasture improved and the rest consisting of forest. The Chain O Ponds creek runs through the property and makes for a lovely walk. You will probably get to see kangaroo, wallaby, wombats, echidnas, koalas and lots of bird life. The lush green hills abound with walking and cycling trails. You can head to the spectacular Nattai Gorge via the Box Vale Mine walking track, an easy 4.4km circular walk that follows an old railway line through a tunnel to breath-taking views. Enjoy a picnic in the magnificent Lake Alexandra Reserve or hike up extinct volcanic peak Mount Gibraltar. The closest shops are approximately a 15 minute drive to the Mittagong Town Centre where you will find all the shops, cafes and restaurants for your needs. It is well worth a visit to ‘The Shaggy Cow’ cafe, one of our favourite foodie spots (don’t forget to mention Elouera Vale). While you're here please try the Cool Climate wines. The region’s rich soil and high altitude are ideal for cool-climate wine growing. Visit cellar doors in the hills and valleys around Mittagong, including Centennial Vineyards. Enjoy a pleasant wine tasting experience at Centennial (don’t forget to mention us). The Camel Cottage offers a luxe off-the-grid escape for couples just one hour from Sydney but feels like "miles from anywhere". The Gums Cottage is a fully contained, off-grid modern getaway, surrounded by the magnificent white gum trees that are its namesake. The serene setting and stylish interior of The Gums provides all the essentials for a picturesque and peaceful country escape. The White Gum Forest Retreat offers campsites nestled in a white gum forest, not far from a beautiful trickling creek. There is access to toilets and a small dam near campsites for water supply for showers where required. For a truly memorable experience we recommend hiring our function space, White Gum Forest Functions, which is available for day visitors as well as guests staying overnight in our cabins and campsites. Why not book your next special family group gathering, milestone birthday or wedding here! The function space can cater for up to 50 guests, please contact us with your time and date requirements before booking. Feel spoilt in the midst of beautiful waratahs, grevilleas and ferns, watching camels grazing in the adjacent paddock. It's like being on a safari! There is 5G mobile telephone reception at the farm so you can reconnect with the world if need be. No pets please.

Ingenia Holidays Nepean River

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58km from Buxton · 41 sites · Tents, RVs, Lodging · Sydney, NSW

The Blue Mountains might be famous for clean, mountain air, but in its foothills, it’s also famous for fun, when you check into Ingenia Holidays Nepean River. Backing onto the Nepean River, the park has accommodation options to suit every format of traveller with both families, couples and sporting enthusiasts making tracks to its Emu Plains location. With a menu of cabins that range from 2 to 12 guests and cottages, camping and caravan sites in between, there’s plenty of space to settle into holiday-mode at Ingenia Holidays Nepean River. Sure you could cook in your cabin or the camp kitchen and BBQ facilities onsite, but most choose to explore the Nepean River setting and wander to O’Donoghues Irish Pub, Nutrition Station or the Nepean Rowing Club, all nearby, for a bite to eat. When you’re not exploring the onsite swimming pool or playground, outdoor-lovers should take note – you’re staying dangerously close to Cables Wake Park Penrith for a fun-filled family day out. For something at slower speed, the Nepean River calls for fishing with the chance of reeling in your catch for dinner tonight.

The Sanctuary Retreat

52km from Buxton · 1 site · Lodging · Sydney, NSW

This is a private retreat stay (you receive the whole bottom level of the house), private bathroom, and kitchenette (no stove top) on shared land with the owner. You are the only guests and enjoy exclusive, unlimited use of the: Sauna, ice bath, pool, gazebo, meditation cave, and healing room with Zen Chi Machine. Your room includes a double bed, sofa be,d and single bed. A boutique retreat hideaway set amidst the breathtaking backdrop of The Woronora Valley of The Dharawal tribe. Reconnect back to your inner peace & creative ‘dream-like’ natural state, inspired by The Woronora Valley. This translates to 'Dreamtime Valley' by the First Nations of the Eora Nation. HIGHLIGHTS Sauna, ice bath, fire pit, gazebo, meditation cave, bushwalking, canoeing down the valley, solar heated pool, yoga mats with cushions, head massager, private healing room access with use of Zen Chi Machine + add on massages can be booked. WELCOME RETREAT PACK Receive our welcome pack with local goodies and staples: A selection of organic teas, coffee, filtered water, milk, sugar, coconut oil, oats, honey, and more. Allows guests to be nurtured in our overgrown garden grounds, or perhaps enjoy bushwalking amongst birds, wallabies & deers.

Bamarang Bush Retreat

71km from Buxton · 5 sites · Lodging · Nowra, NSW

Bamarang Bush Retreat is a family-owned and operated business set on 120 acres of ancient bushland in a prehistoric river valley. With handcrafted accommodations, it offers privacy and seclusion among towering gum trees, located just 2.5 hours from Sydney and Canberra. Nestled alongside the Shoalhaven River and close to the pristine white sands of Jervis Bay, the retreat caters to environmentally conscious individuals, couples, families, and groups seeking to reconnect with nature in a unique and creative space.

Wondernest

73km from Buxton · 1 site · Lodging · Blackheath, NSW

Elevated above serene and secluded bushland, the stylish and sophisticated country home of Wondernest invites you to leave the world at the door and immerse yourself in nature. Your wilderness detox begins the moment you enter the two-bedroom Scandi-cool cabin. Relax in the cosy window seat or soak up the serene atmosphere on the elevated outdoor deck. With our landscaped garden blending seamlessly into the bush, the World Heritage National Park is literally on your doorstep. The space Wondernest has been designed and renovated with a strong appreciation of its surrounds. The dark stained timber exterior opens into fresh white interiors walls, pale timber floors and 2 airy upstairs chalet style bedrooms. With views of bush from every room and a comfy sit in window "nest" to bring you closer to the bush there is no need to leave the house. But with an elevated outdoor deck and garden opening out into the bush, the Blue Mountains World Heritage National Park is literally on your doorstep. The light-filled galley kitchen with views to trees and bush is designed to make you relax and unwind. The black cabinetry and appliances are complemented by a functional rugged concrete benchtop. The kitchen comes fully equipped with gas cooktop, electric oven, microwave, dishwasher, toaster and kettle. It's welcoming and carefully considered with plenty of space for some indulgent holiday cooking. There is also a spacious bathroom and full laundry with both washer and dryer. The 2 upstairs chalet-style bedrooms both have queen size beds, discrete lighting zones, expansive bush views and plenty of storage space. Both rooms also feature skylights above the bed so you can explore the stars of the southern sky from the comfort of your luxury bed. Enjoy the Milkyway galaxy with a cup of tea in bed. Our goal is to let you connect with nature, so curl up on the window box or the corner leather lounge and watch the cockatoos come home to roost at dusk. But if you feel the need to reconnect there is unlimited access to high-speed NBN wifi. Bring your devices and access the streaming channel of your choice. There is off-street parking for 2 cars in the driveway

Stories from the community

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Dean

July 2025

2 nights at K2 River Island Nature Retreat

Beautiful little cabin to stay in and an absolutely stunning scenery to look at and explore

Stay in the cottage nestled in the bush and surrounded by wild life

Alexander

June 2025

With pets

Weekend Trip to Lyrebirds Nest

We really enjoyed our stay - everything was straight forward and as described/explained. The cottage outlook was lovely and the sauna was a real treat. We would not hesitate to stay again.

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Andrew

June 2025

Weekend Trip to Lyrebirds Nest

Private, secluded, amazing bush views. A great escape for some serious relaxation. Ash was great, communication A1. A wonderful property. Pay attention to the items you'll need to bring and enjoy.. Thanks

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Jackie

April 2025

4 nights at Lyrebirds Nest

We loved our stay at the cabin! It has the perfect cozy vibe and we loved using the fire pit and sauna, totally recommend staying here!

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Dominique

March 2025

2 nights at Lyrebirds Nest

Beautiful cabin in a lovely secluded spot! Ash and his partner were very attentive hosts and great with communication. So nice to wake up to the sound of birds in the morning and sit out on the veranda. Thank you for a great stay!

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Tony

February 2025

With pets

Weekend Trip to Lyrebirds Nest

Beautiful spot with the most amazing view from the cabin. Lots of birds to watch. Lovely rustic cabin with warming fire. Our dog loved swimming in the billabong by the sauna. Ash was very responsive, couldn’t have asked for more.

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Annabel

January 2025

2 nights at Lyrebirds Nest

Amazing spot! Sauna was amazing and the cabin is so sweet and romantic. We extended our stay because we loved it so much. Will definitely be coming back. And our doggo loved it! Gorgeous!

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Janet

December 2024

With pets

Weekend Trip to Lyrebirds Nest

I stayed with my partner and 2 dogs. The log cabin was wonderful, has all the amenities you need surrounded by nature. Loved waking up and sitting outside on the deck with a coffee with the view of the trees. It was so peaceful! Ash and Ellie were the perfect hosts and made sure we were comfortable!