The only thing I was surprised by how close the camp sites were to each other and the road. The camping is not on the main land of the old children’s camps, it’s across the street on the side of a road. And the firewood was wet with no dry kindling. The bathrooms were nice and the road wasn’t too busy. The lake was walking close and the foster falls were a quick 5 min. Away. the bathrooms were convenient. It just wasn’t primitive enough for us.