Hipcamp host Ned M.,
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Camp Snot Otter...(Let me finish)...is a theme camp and natural preserve named after the slang for the giant Hellbender (Cryptobranchus allegheniensis) that lives in nearby French Creek. It is one of the largest salamanders in the world and the Pennsylvania State Amphibian.  Locally, it is also known as the Allegheny Alligator.  It;s actually only sort of gross, but it's ver


Camp Snot Otter...(Let me finish)...is a theme camp and natural preserve named after the slang for the giant Hellbender (Cryptobranchus allegheniensis) that lives in nearby French Creek. It is one of the largest salamanders in the world and the Pennsylvania State Amphibian.  Locally, it is also known as the Allegheny Alligator.  It;s actually only sort of gross, but it's very, very cool. The property has been in our family since 1827.

Camp Snot Otter is the capital of Nederlandia (see our other listing under that name).

The land is an elongated forested strip between deep woods and a wide open field so it is very appealing to a variety of wildlife. The land has trails, wetlands, small creeks, beautiful trees, and plenty of shade on the hot Summer days while having access to a wide open field for stargazing at night. There is a nice central camp with a makeshift nature center, a large fire pit, cooking supplies and often live music.. Nearby attractions include the Erie National Wildlife Refuge, The French Creek Conservancy, Allegheny College, Woodcock Creek Nature Center, the Tamarack Wildlife Rehabilitation Center,  Conneaut Lake, Hiking, horseback riding and kayaking within 10 minutes, and the super fun Venango General Store nearby. Kayaking packages are available for a 12 mile day trip. The camp is also close to a grocery store, a hardware store, an ice cream shop, and a couple rural restaurants. Campers may be allowed to gather their own dry deadfall for firewood, but good oak and cherry cooking wood will be available to purchase at center camp. With a bit of guidance from the staff, some campers may be permitted to blaze their own inroads into the woods and create their own camp legacy.

Center camp is the central hub for everything you need. We have an information board with maps, current updates and info on goings on.  We also have menus for pizza and local restaurants that will actually deliver to the land.. We always have coffee going in the morning and a luxury setting for a truly natural morning constitution (as long as you help to escort your creation to a staff appointed generally fertilizer deficient disposal designation).  Also available for purchase or to barter for at center camp include water, toiletries,, batteries, tools for rent, and some basic cooking ingredients. Ask and we shall try our best to hook you up.

Camp Snot Otter is in the very formation stage of a potential small scale absurd culture festival with roots in Burning Man and The Electric Forest.  Campers are encouraged to participate, to create spaces, and leave only works of natural art that may be aesthetically pleasing, but also beneficial to wildlife, at their sites. Wild things in wild places can happen here and many new friends can be made in the process.  There is always a core staff person on site, and often a crew of hicks, skids, jocks, spiritual guides, (no degens), and musicians there every day from May to October to provide sharing, transportation, information and other basic necessities and entertainments. In the Winter, we have a very cozy cabin with a fireplace, wood stove, kitchen and generator for extra heat and light. 

CSO is committed to wildlife conservation and education.  Some of the proceeds from hosting campsites will go towards local conservation initiatives. Campers here can learn about local natural history and be immersed in the wildlife around them.  We have incredible frog choruses going throughout the Spring and Summer.  Our species count on the land is now somewhere in the 300s including an informal trapping study of insects last year that yielded a great number of cool bugs, but surprisingly few mosquitos.  The one thing people have always said about camping here is that the mosquitos are not bad at all.  We have a pond with turtles and frogs, tons of salamanders and harmless snakes.  We've seen porcupine, mink, flying squirrels, and we still have a decent bat population around here.  Birdwatching is a constant new surprise.  There is almost always one or more dogs present here, of course. But I must also disclose, there are definitely signs of Sasquatch migrating through the back bush.

Fun is our campsite concept and if we have our druthers, we can start to do themed parties around major dates and holidays, especially a grand Halloween party! We have already planted all the pumpkins for this year.

Looking forward to hanging out with you guys!

Campsite area
Tent or RV site
1 site
Up to 4 guests per site
Up to 2 vehicles
Wheelchair access
RV Information
Campervans and Cars allowed
Generators allowed
Ask about access type
Ask about max length
Ask about slideout accommodation
surface type
surface levelness
No Travel trailers, Fifth wheels, Toy haulers, Pop-up campers, Class A RVs, Class B RVs, or Class C RVs
Hookups: No electricity, water, sewage, or TV connection
Campfires allowed
Toilet available
Pets allowed
Kitchen available
Showers available
Bins available
No potable water
No picnic table
No wifi
Laundry absent
Have a question? Send Ned a message!
  • Check in: After 10AM
  • Check out: Before 4PM
  • Cancellation policy: Moderate
  • On arrival: Meet and greet
  • Minimum nights: 1 night
  • Accepts bookings: 12 months out


Offered on the Host's property or nearby.

Horseback riding
Snow sports
Wildlife watching


Natural features you'll find at Camp Snot Otter in Pennsylvania.

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Hipcamper danielle

Rustic camping

Danielle S.
recommends this listing.
March 14th, 2022

We loved Ned's land. It was so quiet despite being off a main road. The access road has some sites right off of it and there are a handful you can hike in to.
Danny was our host and he and his dog Myla hiked with us all over the property. Danny was super informative and was able to show us an old well, one of the only American Chestnut trees in the area and let us know about things Ned will be doing on the property in the future.
It was to cold and snowy to see any snakes or salamanders so we will definitely be going back later in the year! Oh and bring your hammocks, you'll definitely find a place to hang and relax.

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Hipcamper Me

A quiet spot in the woods

Me W.
recommends this listing.
September 8th, 2021

A quiet spot in the woods, to set up a tent or pull in a camper. A fire ring of rocks. There is even a walk-in spot. A great way to skip the crowds. An hours drive from the beaches at Presque Isle. Woodcock Creek Lake, a lake with swim beach and boating only a couple of miles away. Quaint town with restaurants nearby. Bring your own water, use the woods, leave no trace. Be sure to call or text Ned ahead of time to let him know when you are arriving and what kind of spot you want. Gate closed after 8pm. You might try calling even if online booking system does not offer the days you want. I was the only camper. A few friends and family hanging out at main camp, a friendly scene. They will help out, make you feel welcome. A rutted road, high clearance vehicle best.

Hipcamper Audrey

Secluded relaxing time

Audrey B.
recommends this listing.
July 20th, 2021

I would most definitely recommend this place. Ned was a great host. Communication was fast and helpful. I told him I wanted a secluded spot and that I had a camper van with an awning and he made sure I had a nice wooded spot I could pull in. It was a very rainy week prior to my stay but my camp site was not muddy. And like he stated, very few mosquitos...actually I never saw one. He also welcomed my two traveling cats and they had no issues. Also got wood from him that was nice and dry and burned well. I will definitely come again!

Hipcamper Joshua

Great "self-contained" camping spot

Joshua C.
recommends this listing.
June 17th, 2021

If you are prepared for a "dispersed" or "self-contained" camping experience, you'll have a great time. Ned and Danny were great hosts. The turn onto the property is a bit tricky to find, but its a secluded and cozy spot.

When arrived in our truck camper Danny helped us find a good spot and level it. He had a fire going and we cooked hot dogs, beans and s'mores. He and his dog had our kids giggling like crazy. In the morning Ned arrived and showed the girls two snakes he was releasing in the pond, as well as the frogs and turtles that live in it.

Its a great little spot and I hope we get back there. I'm looking forward to seeing how Ned and Danny develop the camp over time.

Ned M.’s Land
United States
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